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and tony fratto, former white house deputy press secretary under president george bush. good to see you. >> hi, alex. >> karen, three years later, what is the status of the health care law? >> well, the status is that it has partially begun to be implemented. i think we're seeing in places where it's been implemented, i was reading a piece in kentucky, looking at how it's starting to not just change people's lives but under some of the rules like the 80/20 meaning that 80% of the money has got to be spent on actual care or you get some money back, that's already taken into effect. that's already working. people with pre-existing conditions, children with pre-existing conditions, that's already starting to work. lots of things are already starting to have a real impact on people's health care. at the same time we know that as you pointed out, there are many who are still trying to fight it either by trying to repeal it, which is not going to happen, or what we've seen at the state level are some of these efforts either to say they're not going to take the medicaid money, the expansion of
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